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		<title>English police want a children&#8217;s DNA database</title>
		<link>http://frethink.com/2008/03/17/english-police-want-a-childrens-dna-database/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Primary school children should be eligible for the DNA database if they exhibit behaviour indicating they may become criminals in later life, according to Britain&#8217;s most senior police forensics expert.Gary Pugh, director of forensic sciences at Scotland Yard and the new DNA spokesman for the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo), said a debate was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Primary school children should be eligible for the DNA database if they exhibit behaviour indicating they may become criminals in later life, according to Britain&#8217;s most senior police forensics expert.Gary Pugh, director of forensic sciences at Scotland Yard and the new DNA spokesman for the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo), said a debate was needed on how far Britain should go in identifying potential offenders, given that some experts believe it is possible to identify future offending traits in children as young as five.&#8217;If we have a primary means of identifying people before they offend, then in the long-term the benefits of targeting younger people are extremely large,&#8217; said Pugh. &#8216;You could argue the younger the better. Criminologists say some people will grow out of crime; others won&#8217;t. We have to find who are possibly going to be the biggest threat to society.&#8217;</p>
<p>Pugh admitted that the deeply controversial suggestion raised issues of parental consent, potential stigmatisation and the role of teachers in identifying future offenders, but said society needed an open, mature discussion on how best to tackle crime before it took place. There are currently 4.5 million genetic samples on the UK database &#8211; the largest in Europe &#8211; but police believe more are required to reduce crime further. &#8216;The number of unsolved crimes says we are not sampling enough of the right people,&#8217; Pugh told The Observer. However, he said the notion of universal sampling &#8211; everyone being forced to give their genetic samples to the database &#8211; is currently prohibited by cost and logistics.</p>
<p>A recent report from the think-tank Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR) called for children to be targeted between the ages of five and 12 with cognitive behavioural therapy, parenting programmes and intensive support. Prevention should start young, it said, because prolific offenders typically began offending between the ages of 10 and 13. Julia Margo, author of the report, entitled &#8216;Make me a Criminal&#8217;, said: &#8216;You can carry out a risk factor analysis where you look at the characteristics of an individual child aged five to seven and identify risk factors that make it more likely that they would become an offender.&#8217; However, she said that placing young children on a database risked stigmatising them by identifying them in a &#8216;negative&#8217; way.</p>
<p>Shami Chakrabarti, director of the civil rights group Liberty, denounced any plan to target youngsters. &#8216;Whichever bright spark at Acpo thought this one up should go back to the business of policing or the pastime of science fiction novels,&#8217; she said. &#8216;The British public is highly respectful of the police and open even to eccentric debate, but playing politics with our innocent kids is a step too far.&#8217;</p>
<p>Last week it emerged that the number of 10 to 18-year-olds placed on the DNA database after being arrested will have reached around 1.5 million this time next year. Since 2004 police have had the power to take DNA samples from anyone over the age of 10 who is arrested, regardless of whether they are later charged, convicted, or found to be innocent.  (<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/mar/16/youthjustice.children">Source</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>One has to wonder if children who refuse to believe in gods or otherwise think for themselves will be suspect.</p>
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		<title>Steal this idea, please</title>
		<link>http://frethink.com/2008/01/08/steal-this-idea-please/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s a suggestion I hope someone follows up on.
If you own or work for a virtual reality lab and would like to contribute to the happiness of a terminally ill adult:
Get together with the Make-A-Wish Foundation  (or do this on your own) and create a way for terminally ill parents to enjoy a virtual adulthood [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a suggestion I hope someone follows up on.</p>
<p>If you own or work for a virtual reality lab and would like to contribute to the happiness of a terminally ill adult:</p>
<p>Get together with the <a href="http://www.wish.org/">Make-A-Wish Foundation</a>  (or do this on your own) and create a way for terminally ill parents to enjoy a virtual adulthood vision of their children.  The technology exists to age a person from an image of them.  This would allow a dying parent to enjoy a vision of their children grown and happy.  The adult/child could be shown in a scenario that the parent selects, like college or business.</p>
<p>I know Make-A-Wish deals with children.  This would allow them to increase their outreach in to parents as well.   If they don&#8217;t appreciate the opportunity this presents, it would be worthwhile to pursue on your own.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t think of too much else that would put a dying parent&#8217;s mind at rest than to be able to &#8220;see&#8221; their children going on to become successful in life.</p>
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